Are there good brands for computer mice?
Ethically produced would be top notch. Linux compatible is a must.
Mouse wants: wired and around 5 buttons would be grand, so I can go back and forwards in browser.
@athairbirb Linux compatibility should be easy as the USB standard already includes support for 2d pointing devices. As long as the mouse doesn't have 10 buttons or any unusual special functions…
@daniel_bohrer I was just aware that brands like Logitech and Razer often have incompatibilities with Linux for reasons unknown, maybe it is the massive number of buttons they have and for 'Gamer gear' reasons
I had a Razor Chroma [series of adjectives] that was just perfect. Then a button went flakey so I bought the most similar model I could find and it’s kind of infuriating. It works on Linux but is too fast by default (on Ubuntu 18, anyway—20 seems to have fixed it.) It also launches its own software installer when plugged into a Windows PC that tries to sell you on their own cryptocurrency.
A lot of Gaming Mice have onboard memory too, and the only thing you can't do with them completely out of the box on Linux is configure them (but configuring them on Windows and keeping the config for Linux works fine even without libratbag). Ours is like that.
(Uh, note that libratbag/Piper /only/ does onboard memory and not software-based remapping.)
They often come with fancy software, but that's usually not needed. (except for substituting context-dependent hotkeys with button presses maybe, or "improve" on OS configuration options)
I'm using a Gigabyte M9600 ... three resolutions, notched wheel that also tilts sideways (how can anyone live without sidescrolling?), and two extra thumb keys (which I never use...). Everything works on many Linuxes, no problem, since 2015 or so.
@athairbirb My go-to (without knowing anything about the ethical nature of production) is the Anker ergonomic. Revolutionary. I would never go back to a 'flat' mouse again. https://uk.anker.com/collections/other/products/a7852 (they have wired and wifi versions, I use wifi)
Nevermind, I tried reviving this mouse a while back. Found this post: https://fabiobaltieri.com/2013/02/14/hp-wi-fi-direct-mouse-on-linux/
And this doesn't seem to work any more and go _way_ above my skill level anyway 😅
I'm going to declare the mouse dead, for the third time :)
@athairbirb @davidoclubb I've been using the exact same model mouse both at work and at home (including for playing first-person shooters) for four years now and indeed once you get used to it it's pretty comfy. I initially switched because I was starting to experience carpal tunnel pains, and it has not happened again since so yeah it's really ergonomic.
I can confirm it works out of the box in both Windows and Linux
@athairbirb Not wired but I love my (horribly named) MX Master 25 (Logitech). Probably about as ethical as any other major tech firm though.
I'm not entirely up to date on it and need a new mouse though, or fix the MMB on mine, lol. Hmm, maybe check the manuals / datasheets / technical data if they support saving to flash...
@aza_leah You had a problem with one not saving the configuration under Linux, right? (Was that Logitech?)
@blizzz That's the only one I'd come across that was ethical and yes, I was saddened to see it was only 3 buttons 😦
thank you for the link
@athairbirb I have a Logitech g502, and it is supported by libratbag/piper, which allows me to configure it fine from Linux.
@athairbirb but I have g900, and I don't know if it's linux compatible, but i'm just assuming it is.
@athairbirb Have no bought one because shipping fees to from Canada to Europe add another 33% to the price.
@ghostdancer thank you for that link. That looks really interesting. It's too expensive for what I can afford :(
@lazalatin thank you for that link. I'd come across them too. The three buttons really knocked it off the 'will buy' list. I'd hoped to see if they were making a newer model or updating it with more buttons, sadly it's behind a Facebook wall
@email@example.com Logitech mouses are (very) good. Using a MX Anywhere and G502, I love them. Especially the disengageable wheel
There are lots of community configuration tools/drivers under Linux for Logitech mouses, so it may not be a problem to configure it.
Still, Logitech has the ethics of a worldwide corporation…
I had used a Corsair harpoon RGB, which i've been configuring with ckb-next https://github.com/ckb-next/ckb-next.
But outside of updating the firmware once, and set better sensibility presets for me, it isn't really needed and is plug and play.
I do see some recomendations here, that i would have love to knew back then when i was replacing my old trusty MadCatz R.A.T. 3 and the infuriating udev rules i had to put on each new systems.
@athairbirb I haven't used it, but the closest that would come to ethical would probably be the Ploopy Mouse, which is fully open source and runs (customizable) QMK firmware. It's supposed to be high quality but does have probably a larger pricetag than you'd expect. (Or you can build it yourself for a lower cost.)
FWIW: They also make all sorts of trackballs too.
@athairbirb I have a couple of Elecom (Japanese brand) ones. They seem solid and I've had no trouble with them in Linux.