@athairbirb I know what you mean... it's a bit different though. That attitude doesn't necessarily mean people want to die, but are willing to accept the risk. More like not wearing a seatbelt or something.
But yes, I do see there being a specific, voluntary element which seems to get ignored in the discourse. If these people want to take the disproportionate risk, why don't we let them?
@douginamug I think, previously certainly, the risk was not to them alone. It extended to those in their environs and visiting.
I know healthcare has a keep-alive-at-all-costs mentality to healthcare in UK (probably west-wide tbh) and it's something I didn't see in veterinary care, which was refreshing and more humane.
@athairbirb @douginamug There is an important ethical difference between taking actions deliberately to hasten death and not taking unusual actions to forestall it. (Unless you're a consequentialist.)
It's true that some old people are ready to go. Pneumonia used to be called "the old man's friend".
In the case of Switzerland, I think we need more information to know why so many octogenarians aren't vaccinated.