@kate Looks like they're desperate for funds. It is alarming, and we should support ff somehow.
If ff fails, the web will remain chromium-only (except maybe caves of gemini). That would leave google alone to set all the rules. Somewhat doomsday scenario. So don't be too picky and keep supporting ff. If they fail in funding, we all will get ads in chromium address bar or something worse.

@dudenas @kate As far as I'm concerned Google is already setting all the rules!

I wish Mozilla the best of luck in holding this back as long as possible, but unfortunately they find themselves having to make these compromises. I don't think they can do what it takes to save the web without losing what influence they still have...

@alcinnz @kate

Another thing - open source software, especially as crucial as ff, can be clearly classified as public good. It is weird how there is no political will to appreciate and fund it. At least in countries I see. Is it because there is no demand from voters? Maybe there is demand, but not yet articulated?

Most people don't know or care. I'm always surprised when people recognise ubuntu or Firefox. They know brands, not the political philosophy of FLOSS. When people do know, it's been because of social interactions with people in FLOSS. Sometimes the impression hasn't been positive for them. We have a collective responsibility for this if we want to inform people about FLOSS and how it benefits the public
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I've been testing the use of the word SOSS or secure open source software. The "free" in FOSS always has to be explained. Also everyone is now inundated with news of security breaches every so "Secure" resonates.

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I do quite like the concept of libre myself, as free can mean different things. I'm a bit wary of the term secure as yes we do have security in the concept and many eyes can help with that. However the term can be misused as much by FLOSS projects as by proprietary player in the industry. So I'd be a bit worried when we had the next heartbleed etc. Although it is an interesting concept as a term.
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